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oh first of all we were in a field

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hunting for it as downed aircraft and

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the first rescue team already found it

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radioed into the fire hall gave the

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coordinates and it was down in front of

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us and we hightailed it out of our

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search area went down into there and we

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got there expecting a smashed up

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airplane

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wings

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fuselage Etc no such character

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came down through the woods and here's

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this humongous piece of metal laying

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there I mean this thing I've described

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time and time again as a very large

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Acorn shaped object

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the front of it or I presume was the

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front of it was pushed down into the

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dirt where the way it came in landed

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after it took out the top of the trees

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and brushed and everything coming in

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came back in an oblong shape

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right on the bottom was a what I call a

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bumper and then the bottom was perfectly

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flat no signs of propulsion or anything

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there was no doors no windows there was

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no ways of getting in this thing at

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least none that I seen there was no

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seams on it no rivets nothing joining

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icing was just bumper around it and had

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these real strange markings on it which

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I've often referred to as similar to the

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ancient uh Egyptian hieroglyphics

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so as a volunteer fireman we did what we

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were supposed to do fund the crash site

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do a preliminary investigation for

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survivors and treat anybody which we

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didn't because there was none that we

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could see there was no way of getting in

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this object

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the first team had already radioed in

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his position were there 10 15 minutes

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all talking around doing a preliminary

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search wondering what we discovered

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Two Gentlemen come down through the

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woods trench coats on

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ramrod stiff crew cut

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all right this is a restricted area

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you're now ordered to get at it wait a

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minute I'm a civilian

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you ain't gonna order me nothing

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but as a fireman I'm being relieved from

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what I'm doing so I got out of there

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we're going out through the woods we

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didn't go into more than 15 20 feet and

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I know from me to you

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here come the military full uniforms

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equipment marching right down through

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the woods with flashlight this is

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December

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late in the evening it's cold it's wet

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how far away were you from a military

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base

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Pittsburgh which was approximately 45

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miles to the West

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So within 15 minutes of your arrival at

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the site the military was there you got

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it okay all right all right now what did

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they say to you after this happened I

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mean I know there were several members

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of the report I saw in unsolved mystery

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several members of the community were

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there people right other people are part

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of the community were there and present

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we're all told to leave

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there was no press or media at the

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immediate crash site

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what I didn't know up on top of the hill

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because I come in through the side

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the military had taken over a farmhouse

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I mean from what I understand military

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brass

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they took over up there

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did all their orders and whatever they

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were doing from up there

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and that's that's what I presume that

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the military who came down through the

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woods came from

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because when we went out we had to walk

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back to the fire hall which was

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approximately the way we had to go I'd

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say a good mile

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but by the time we got back to the fire

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hall it was wall-to-wall military I mean

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there was trucks and jeeps and cars

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there was guards on the door did anybody

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say to you I don't want you talking

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about this don't say a word about this

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or were you

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debriefed what they did I mean these

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people

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virtually told us just to shut up get

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your vehicles and be quiet

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and you did one of the guys even asked

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the guards the door look I got to go to

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bathroom now these guys stand there with

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weapons

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well they were learned not I don't know

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in other words brave enough to try to

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find out he's I got to go to the

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bathroom they said keep those weeds over

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there use them well by that time we just

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headed for the trucks

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I gotta I have a daughter and a son that

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both went into the military within the

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last two or three years one went into

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Marine Corps one win in the U.S Air

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Force my daughter come to me from the

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United States Marine Corps and she said

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dad your name come up on a computer as

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my father I had to sign a statement

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saying I would never ask a request for

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any information from Kecksburg my son

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had to sign two states oh about you

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about yourself pardon any information

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about yourself

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you had your daughter had to sign a

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paper that said she would not ask for

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any information about you not about me

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but about you okay you might want to

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come up as her father okay but you know

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what no wait a minute Montel okay then

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my son and the U.S Air Force had to sign

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two papers one damn way get to just jump

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to the chase because part of the chase

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here is the fact that I spent I'm

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telling you I had some of the highest

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clearances this country has to offer

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I've been through files on top of files

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on top of files I still ain't seen

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nothing yet but did you have period

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you didn't have a need to know that's

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also not true the Sun goes in the Air

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Force and they tell him he can't even

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request to go to Wright-Patterson Air

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Force Base for Duty because I seen

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something and that's where my UFO is

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saying maybe maybe I did why women maybe

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as MLS was something that they didn't

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have a qualification for it right

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Patterson has nothing to do with it okay

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all right hold on the government is

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covering this up they don't want no one

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to know they don't want no one to get

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access to anything because they're

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afraid people will find out the truth